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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Web Bores Me by Vasudev Ram</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/05/09/the-web-bores-me/#comment-7577</link>
		<dc:creator>Vasudev Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.

&#62;And so much harder than it should be.

I agree. I think people have been forgetting about this: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle" rel="nofollow"&gt;KISS&lt;/a&gt;

And also it is harder because people have been forgetting (or never knew in the first place) some of the basics of good software development, such as modularization, and writing clear, readable code. 

Desktop apps that can "speak web" is a nice idea - been thinking on those lines myself too ... and so have some others.

- Vasudev Ram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.</p>
<p>&gt;And so much harder than it should be.</p>
<p>I agree. I think people have been forgetting about this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle" rel="nofollow">KISS</a></p>
<p>And also it is harder because people have been forgetting (or never knew in the first place) some of the basics of good software development, such as modularization, and writing clear, readable code. </p>
<p>Desktop apps that can &#8220;speak web&#8221; is a nice idea - been thinking on those lines myself too &#8230; and so have some others.</p>
<p>- Vasudev Ram</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Needs Dead Poets When You&#8217;ve Got Leonard Cohen? by Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/06/08/who-needs-dead-poets-when-youve-got-leonard-cohen/#comment-6314</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBC Radio had a great documentary that was done by a woman from Norway on Cohen (he doesn't often do interviews). If you can find it somewhere online it is so worth the listen.  Some absolutely classic quotes in there.  Unapologetic and the spirit of true artist.  Even let's us come join him in a Shabbat dinner or two.  (oh and if you find it send me the link bc i'd love to listen to it again un-distracted by traffic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBC Radio had a great documentary that was done by a woman from Norway on Cohen (he doesn&#8217;t often do interviews). If you can find it somewhere online it is so worth the listen.  Some absolutely classic quotes in there.  Unapologetic and the spirit of true artist.  Even let&#8217;s us come join him in a Shabbat dinner or two.  (oh and if you find it send me the link bc i&#8217;d love to listen to it again un-distracted by traffic)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Needs Dead Poets When You&#8217;ve Got Leonard Cohen? by vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/06/08/who-needs-dead-poets-when-youve-got-leonard-cohen/#comment-5773</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful comment DrHGuy! The reason I call myself an idiot is that if Cohen turned to music when he was 32, I was one year old at the time! In other words, I had a whole lifetime to know better. :) In any case, I take your point and thank you for it.

The use of "apparently" can be put down to bad writing habits as well as uncertainty about my single-source of research (let's face it, Wikipedia is not infallible!) 

And I thank you kindly for solving the mystery of "A Thousand Kisses Deep". You see? I knew someone would enlighten me.

Cheers,

Vanessa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful comment DrHGuy! The reason I call myself an idiot is that if Cohen turned to music when he was 32, I was one year old at the time! In other words, I had a whole lifetime to know better. <img src='http://www.fridgebuzz.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> In any case, I take your point and thank you for it.</p>
<p>The use of &#8220;apparently&#8221; can be put down to bad writing habits as well as uncertainty about my single-source of research (let&#8217;s face it, Wikipedia is not infallible!) </p>
<p>And I thank you kindly for solving the mystery of &#8220;A Thousand Kisses Deep&#8221;. You see? I knew someone would enlighten me.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Vanessa</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Needs Dead Poets When You&#8217;ve Got Leonard Cohen? by DrHGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/06/08/who-needs-dead-poets-when-youve-got-leonard-cohen/#comment-5771</link>
		<dc:creator>DrHGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on a fine post. As one who occasionally writes about Cohen on my personal blog, I can't resist commenting on a point or two.

I think you're being a bit too tough on yourself when you write "Well, of course, I’m a complete idiot, because a little research will reveal that Cohen’s been a singer/songwriter since the 60’s. True, he’s published a quite a few books of poetry, and even a couple of novels, but music has always been his thing and I just never noticed." In fact, Cohen was 32 before opting for songwriting, a switch he says was prompted by the belief that singing might pay better that publishing poems and prose. And, his novels and poetry met with critical acclaim. The Boston Globe, for example, anointed him the reincarnation of James Joyce. In writing a series of posts for new fans, in fact, I've found it necessary to emphasize that "Leonard Cohen, long before he was a singer-songwriter, was a well-known, successful poet and novelist. And, he was not a rock poet, a folk poet, or any other kind of pop songwriters are today’s poets poet. Nope, Leonard Cohen was and is the kind of poet who has a grasp of the craft of writing prose and poetry, who knows a dactyl from a trochee, who understands how an elegiac couplet varies from the heroic couplet. He sold volumes of well-reviewed poetry and novels before anyone thought of paying to hear him sing anything other than square dance tunes." See my post, &lt;a href="http://1heckofaguy.com/2008/05/20/leonard-cohen-the-literary-years/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Leonard Cohen - The Literary Years&lt;/a&gt;.

I would quibble only with the "apparently" in "he’s apparently had affairs with Janis Joplin and Rebecca DeMornay, among many others," Cohen has repeatedly announced that his liaison with Janis Joplin is the basis for the song, Chelsea Hotel #2, and he openly lived with DeMornay and the two were often interviewed as a couple.  For the past several years, his romantic partner has been 
Anjani, who has been worked for Cohen as a singer and keyboardist and is the performing artist on Blue Alert, an album produced by Cohen.

The song A Thousand Kisses Deep is based on a poem called For Those Who Greeted Me. The poem and a brief explanation of the process by which the song evolved can be found at http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/kisses.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on a fine post. As one who occasionally writes about Cohen on my personal blog, I can&#8217;t resist commenting on a point or two.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re being a bit too tough on yourself when you write &#8220;Well, of course, I’m a complete idiot, because a little research will reveal that Cohen’s been a singer/songwriter since the 60’s. True, he’s published a quite a few books of poetry, and even a couple of novels, but music has always been his thing and I just never noticed.&#8221; In fact, Cohen was 32 before opting for songwriting, a switch he says was prompted by the belief that singing might pay better that publishing poems and prose. And, his novels and poetry met with critical acclaim. The Boston Globe, for example, anointed him the reincarnation of James Joyce. In writing a series of posts for new fans, in fact, I&#8217;ve found it necessary to emphasize that &#8220;Leonard Cohen, long before he was a singer-songwriter, was a well-known, successful poet and novelist. And, he was not a rock poet, a folk poet, or any other kind of pop songwriters are today’s poets poet. Nope, Leonard Cohen was and is the kind of poet who has a grasp of the craft of writing prose and poetry, who knows a dactyl from a trochee, who understands how an elegiac couplet varies from the heroic couplet. He sold volumes of well-reviewed poetry and novels before anyone thought of paying to hear him sing anything other than square dance tunes.&#8221; See my post, <a href="http://1heckofaguy.com/2008/05/20/leonard-cohen-the-literary-years/" rel="nofollow">Leonard Cohen - The Literary Years</a>.</p>
<p>I would quibble only with the &#8220;apparently&#8221; in &#8220;he’s apparently had affairs with Janis Joplin and Rebecca DeMornay, among many others,&#8221; Cohen has repeatedly announced that his liaison with Janis Joplin is the basis for the song, Chelsea Hotel #2, and he openly lived with DeMornay and the two were often interviewed as a couple.  For the past several years, his romantic partner has been<br />
Anjani, who has been worked for Cohen as a singer and keyboardist and is the performing artist on Blue Alert, an album produced by Cohen.</p>
<p>The song A Thousand Kisses Deep is based on a poem called For Those Who Greeted Me. The poem and a brief explanation of the process by which the song evolved can be found at <a href="http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/kisses.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/kisses.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Needs Dead Poets When You&#8217;ve Got Leonard Cohen? by JJ Birdsong</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/06/08/who-needs-dead-poets-when-youve-got-leonard-cohen/#comment-5759</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Birdsong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I flew from LA to Toronto for Friday's concert.   It was worth every penny and every mile.   Thanks for documenting your experience....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I flew from LA to Toronto for Friday&#8217;s concert.   It was worth every penny and every mile.   Thanks for documenting your experience&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Web Bores Me by vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ruzz, that's a fine way of putting it. :) For myself, I don't do strictly web development for exactly that reason: there's just not enough satisfaction in it. Thanks for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ruzz, that&#8217;s a fine way of putting it. <img src='http://www.fridgebuzz.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> For myself, I don&#8217;t do strictly web development for exactly that reason: there&#8217;s just not enough satisfaction in it. Thanks for your comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Web Bores Me by ruzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even though things have got better and better, and the solutions we are able to provide are more and more intricate, i still feel very underwhelmed with the problems we are solving. theres nothing inspirational about the work. it's making widgets in a widget factory at this point. once you've solved enough complex problems to feel satisfied with your skill, it becomes tiring. 

I look at some of the innovations in Leopard, and I think, man, we're wearing handcuffs in the web world while other people get to dream up ways to make things work. 

in the name of being general in our choice of platforms (the web) we have given up a decade and a half of meaningful advancement in development. 

all this and being amazing at this doesn't even get you laid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even though things have got better and better, and the solutions we are able to provide are more and more intricate, i still feel very underwhelmed with the problems we are solving. theres nothing inspirational about the work. it&#8217;s making widgets in a widget factory at this point. once you&#8217;ve solved enough complex problems to feel satisfied with your skill, it becomes tiring. </p>
<p>I look at some of the innovations in Leopard, and I think, man, we&#8217;re wearing handcuffs in the web world while other people get to dream up ways to make things work. </p>
<p>in the name of being general in our choice of platforms (the web) we have given up a decade and a half of meaningful advancement in development. </p>
<p>all this and being amazing at this doesn&#8217;t even get you laid.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Web Bores Me by caxqueiroz</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/05/09/the-web-bores-me/#comment-5192</link>
		<dc:creator>caxqueiroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, I share the same feeling. I hate developing web apps. That's why I am also going to the cocoa world ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, I share the same feeling. I hate developing web apps. That&#8217;s why I am also going to the cocoa world <img src='http://www.fridgebuzz.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazon vs. Google: Services vs. Application Hosting Plus by vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.fridgebuzz.com/2008/04/08/amazon-vs-google-services-vs-application-hosting-plus/#comment-5185</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Sorry Balu. "Enterprise middleware suckage" is just a term I made up to express my contempt for some of the middleware (especially web-related middleware like application servers, portal servers, web caches, and so on) produced by "enterprise" software companies. I'd rather not name names, but you can probably figure out who some of the culprits are. I owe the term to an old blog post by Tim Bray, which I believe was called "Enterprise Software Wreckage."

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Sorry Balu. &#8220;Enterprise middleware suckage&#8221; is just a term I made up to express my contempt for some of the middleware (especially web-related middleware like application servers, portal servers, web caches, and so on) produced by &#8220;enterprise&#8221; software companies. I&#8217;d rather not name names, but you can probably figure out who some of the culprits are. I owe the term to an old blog post by Tim Bray, which I believe was called &#8220;Enterprise Software Wreckage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amazon vs. Google: Services vs. Application Hosting Plus by Balu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might sound clueless, but what is "middleware suckage" Vanessa, given some understanding of "mi(u)ddleware"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might sound clueless, but what is &#8220;middleware suckage&#8221; Vanessa, given some understanding of &#8220;mi(u)ddleware&#8221;?</p>
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